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		<title>By: Alister on seo</title>
		<link>http://www.ItsTheROI.com/search-engine-marketing/using-knowledge-for-good-white-knight-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-16075</link>
		<dc:creator>Alister on seo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google provide a great advert service, and like so many good free services it gets abused, that isn&#039;t Googles fault. Pro seos know a good money making strategy when they see one, and Google Adsense is definitely one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google provide a great advert service, and like so many good free services it gets abused, that isn&#8217;t Googles fault. Pro seos know a good money making strategy when they see one, and Google Adsense is definitely one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anik Singhal</title>
		<link>http://www.ItsTheROI.com/search-engine-marketing/using-knowledge-for-good-white-knight-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-14121</link>
		<dc:creator>Anik Singhal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Anik Singhal...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Strangely Perfect</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strangely Perfect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not wrong about the &quot;hours&quot; spent on this effort @Paul.  Same as me - my hourly rate has cost me thousands if I was charging, ha ha.  Still, there are plenty of other dodgy dealings the nurks have got to move on to in order to Realise their Investment...
  
It&#039;s at this point that your idea @Jonah may work.  Personally speaking, though, when I stumbled (quite accidently) into this vipers nest, the single post I made on my blog out-hit all the Chesty-Google stuff for several weeks, and going backwards all the way to the previous November, postings like those on @Paul&#039;s website and others (which we&#039;ve listed), took the same spot, as I discovered.

The problem was not in the difficulty of out-ranking the scammers, it was that Google sat on their hands for so long, allowing hundreds (nay thousands) of websites to post near-identical content all pointing back to the mother-lode while at the same time the web was spammed to high-heaven with links and adverts marketing the crap.
If you can figure a way to stop the inevitable repetition of that (once someone&#039;s zonked up a new killer keyword), all the little people will be protected much better.

Rees</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not wrong about the &#8220;hours&#8221; spent on this effort @Paul.  Same as me &#8211; my hourly rate has cost me thousands if I was charging, ha ha.  Still, there are plenty of other dodgy dealings the nurks have got to move on to in order to Realise their Investment&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s at this point that your idea @Jonah may work.  Personally speaking, though, when I stumbled (quite accidently) into this vipers nest, the single post I made on my blog out-hit all the Chesty-Google stuff for several weeks, and going backwards all the way to the previous November, postings like those on @Paul&#8217;s website and others (which we&#8217;ve listed), took the same spot, as I discovered.</p>
<p>The problem was not in the difficulty of out-ranking the scammers, it was that Google sat on their hands for so long, allowing hundreds (nay thousands) of websites to post near-identical content all pointing back to the mother-lode while at the same time the web was spammed to high-heaven with links and adverts marketing the crap.<br />
If you can figure a way to stop the inevitable repetition of that (once someone&#8217;s zonked up a new killer keyword), all the little people will be protected much better.</p>
<p>Rees</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.ItsTheROI.com/search-engine-marketing/using-knowledge-for-good-white-knight-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-13758</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonah Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul

I am sorry you think this is a publicity stunt.  If it is for publicity, it has nothing to do with me or my business.   I have been campaigning against Virtual Blight for a couple years now.  White Knight SEO is just the latest chapter; one that I hope will get others in the industry to devote a little bit of time to helping clean up the web instead of promoting their own sites.  I also hope the mainstream media will be able to understand the issue and frame it in terms of Google&#039;s (and other publishers&#039;) responsibility for the ads they carry on their site. 

As for the question of opportunistic versus altruistic, I am only able to base my opinion on your WorkAtHomeTruth.com site and the fact that you are clearly selling a product along with being an affiliate for a number of work at home systems .    I am not sure how to reconcile these offers with your claim, but I do not feel compelled to do so. I am making no judgements about your site other than that it doesn&#039;t fit my definition of White Knight SEO.

I applaud the work you are doing with victims of these scams and I encourage you to publish some of the information you are providing them.  I would happily link to that as a wonderful resource and I am reasonable confident others would as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul</p>
<p>I am sorry you think this is a publicity stunt.  If it is for publicity, it has nothing to do with me or my business.   I have been campaigning against Virtual Blight for a couple years now.  White Knight SEO is just the latest chapter; one that I hope will get others in the industry to devote a little bit of time to helping clean up the web instead of promoting their own sites.  I also hope the mainstream media will be able to understand the issue and frame it in terms of Google&#8217;s (and other publishers&#8217;) responsibility for the ads they carry on their site. </p>
<p>As for the question of opportunistic versus altruistic, I am only able to base my opinion on your WorkAtHomeTruth.com site and the fact that you are clearly selling a product along with being an affiliate for a number of work at home systems .    I am not sure how to reconcile these offers with your claim, but I do not feel compelled to do so. I am making no judgements about your site other than that it doesn&#8217;t fit my definition of White Knight SEO.</p>
<p>I applaud the work you are doing with victims of these scams and I encourage you to publish some of the information you are providing them.  I would happily link to that as a wonderful resource and I am reasonable confident others would as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Schlegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Schlegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction to above: &quot;White Knight SEO&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Schlegel</title>
		<link>http://www.ItsTheROI.com/search-engine-marketing/using-knowledge-for-good-white-knight-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-13754</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Schlegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL.

Are you kidding me? If I was being opportunitistic I&#039;d shut that whole site down. Do you have ANY clue at all what it takes to help that many people? Believe me, there are MUCH easier ways to make money.

I worked with people on the phone for hours, worked DIRECTLY with a senior litigator at the FTC on one of the cases spending weeks reverse engineering properties and providing 10 pages of dense documentation on the scams, spent weeks of phone calls between the litigator, myself, and the investigator - plus I agreed to testify in their case

I worked with people on the phone helping them fill out FTC complaints, IC3 complaints, and the National Consumers League used my site to issue their warning.

I&#039;m suspecting you&#039;re realizing that you&#039;re little &quot;Publicity Stunt&quot; is going to take a nasty turn.

And you have the GALL to call ME opportunistic?

Why don&#039;t you call my friend Lyndell Edgington who runs &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eagleresearchassociates.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EagleResearchAssociates.org&lt;/a&gt; and has an assigned federal agent about that?

I sacrificed hundreds of hours of my LIFE helping these people. You think a few measely product sales and paltry adsense earnings is what this is about?

White Hat SEO is nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.</p>
<p>Are you kidding me? If I was being opportunitistic I&#8217;d shut that whole site down. Do you have ANY clue at all what it takes to help that many people? Believe me, there are MUCH easier ways to make money.</p>
<p>I worked with people on the phone for hours, worked DIRECTLY with a senior litigator at the FTC on one of the cases spending weeks reverse engineering properties and providing 10 pages of dense documentation on the scams, spent weeks of phone calls between the litigator, myself, and the investigator &#8211; plus I agreed to testify in their case</p>
<p>I worked with people on the phone helping them fill out FTC complaints, IC3 complaints, and the National Consumers League used my site to issue their warning.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m suspecting you&#8217;re realizing that you&#8217;re little &#8220;Publicity Stunt&#8221; is going to take a nasty turn.</p>
<p>And you have the GALL to call ME opportunistic?</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you call my friend Lyndell Edgington who runs <a href="http://www.eagleresearchassociates.org/" rel="nofollow">EagleResearchAssociates.org</a> and has an assigned federal agent about that?</p>
<p>I sacrificed hundreds of hours of my LIFE helping these people. You think a few measely product sales and paltry adsense earnings is what this is about?</p>
<p>White Hat SEO is nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonah Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul

I am sorry if you feel crowded out or neglected, but since you are selling a product to people who are looking to work at home, I can&#039;t include you in the list of articles exposing the scam.  This is about being altruistic, not opportunistic.

For what it is worth, other not so little sites like www.SEOBook.com have been sounding the alarm for some time, I just felt it was time to encourage other people to do so as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul</p>
<p>I am sorry if you feel crowded out or neglected, but since you are selling a product to people who are looking to work at home, I can&#8217;t include you in the list of articles exposing the scam.  This is about being altruistic, not opportunistic.</p>
<p>For what it is worth, other not so little sites like <a href="http://www.SEOBook.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.SEOBook.com</a> have been sounding the alarm for some time, I just felt it was time to encourage other people to do so as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Schlegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Schlegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great. So NOW the &quot;White Knight SEOs&quot; come bounding in TEN MONTHS after little sites like mine ALREADY warned people about these scams and helped them file complaints with the FTC, AGs, IC3, BBB, AFTER Google has already been banning advertisers for months, and AFTER the FTC has already file injunctions against some of the bigger Google Cash scams out there?

Plus apparently you forgot your history. The original Google Cash or even Google Cash Detective had NOTHING to do with any of these new scams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great. So NOW the &#8220;White Knight SEOs&#8221; come bounding in TEN MONTHS after little sites like mine ALREADY warned people about these scams and helped them file complaints with the FTC, AGs, IC3, BBB, AFTER Google has already been banning advertisers for months, and AFTER the FTC has already file injunctions against some of the bigger Google Cash scams out there?</p>
<p>Plus apparently you forgot your history. The original Google Cash or even Google Cash Detective had NOTHING to do with any of these new scams.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me know how I can help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me know how I can help!</p>
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